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S1E4 - Jackass: a time capsule of pain

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RC

I'm RC Beiler.

Jenn

And I'm Jenn Evans.

RC

And welcome to Coolidge After Dark. So for, yeah, for today's episode, we will be reviewing Jackass: The Movie, released in 2002.

Jenn

Yep.

RC

Jenn, So have you— you had seen the film before?

Jenn

So I actually thought I had seen the first one. And I have seen, I think, the second and third one. And I hadn't seen the first one. So that was a treat for me.

RC

Had you seen the TV show?

Jenn

Yes.

RC

So it was like part of your life?

Jenn

Yeah. So I grew up with 2 cousins that were treated like siblings to me. One was a year older and one was a year younger. And we would stay up late like every weekend and watch Jackass and Viva La Bam until like all small hours of the morning. And then when Emily and I started like having sleepovers, we would do the same thing. And it was just like always a part of the culture and whatever. And I loved it. It was awesome.

RC

See, I was familiar more with the parody than the actual thing.

Jenn

What do you mean the parody?

RC

Like there's a lot of things that have parodied like I'm like Like, especially the I'm Johnny Knoxville, welcome to Jackass. Like, I've definitely seen like movies and things that parody like that kind of intro. And I even think the shopping cart intro of the film I've seen parodied before.

Jenn

Yes.

RC

I want to take a moment. So I'm going to have you do the box office guess that we've done before.

Jenn

Okay.

RC

But I'm adding on an additional thing in this case.

Jenn

Yes.

RC

How many seasons and total episodes do you think the TV show went? When do you think it went like from until? Rustly, so I try and you know guess.

Jenn

So I looked this one up quickly, but I didn't read too heavily into it, so I don't know if I'm right. But I saw that it ran from 2000 to 2001, and then they would do reruns into 2002. But I thought they made more than that. But maybe I'm thinking of the movies.

RC

Yeah, and then how many seasons?

Jenn

And Viva La Bam, like

RC

right, right. We're gonna we are gonna treat these as separate entities. But

Jenn

I know, I know the whole, and I think that's why I'm like I thought it was on for longer because I think. that world was, but I don't think Jackass ran as long as I thought it did.

RC

Yeah, so like how many total episodes are there?

Jenn

How many total episodes? 50?

RC

It is significantly less than I expected. It ran for 3 seasons within that 1 year, which is weird, because it was only on for, yeah, not even a full year.

Jenn

Yeah.

RC

And it was 25 episodes.

Jenn

Well, I mean, if they had done 50, someone would have died.

RC

Most definitely.

Jenn

So.

RC

No, and I think, yeah, it spawned these spin-offs spinoffs, Viva La Bam and Wild Boys. Viva La Bam I had seen a few episodes of, and I also was familiar with Bam Margera from the Tony Hawk games, you know, because he was a skater.

Jenn

I didn't realize Bam was in the Tony Hawk games.

RC

I want to say it was specifically American Wasteland.

Jenn

Okay,

RC

like one of the later games, or it might have been Tony Hawk Underground. But yeah, and I think he was also— he was a character you could play as in a few of the other ones.

Jenn

Okay, well, we saw Tony Hawk in this, and we know that they're— and Bam are kind of like friends with all of the major skaters.

RC

Yeah, because my understanding is like before this, Bam was a skater, right?

Jenn

I was about to ask you that. Was he?

RC

That's my understanding.

Jenn

I know he's like a talented skater, but I don't know if he was—

RC

Like, you don't know if he got his start doing this and then started skating? Because I don't think so.

Jenn

I don't think he was like—

RC

Similarly, I'm trying to think if Johnny Knoxville was like a known figure prior to this.

Jenn

I was trying to think of that too. I don't think he was. I think he was—

RC

Because everything I think of him from besides Jackass, is in a post-Jackass world, right? Movies he's been in, things like that.

Jenn

Yeah.

RC

But wait, not to get too far away from it, what do you think the budget of this film was, and what do you think the box office of it was?

Jenn

Okay, so I was thinking of this like the whole time when we were watching this, just thinking like, how much money? And I mean, the very first skit they start off the movie with is they rent a rental car and then they fucking ruin it. So we know

RC

multiple

Jenn

multiple rental car derby.

RC

My understanding is all the cars in that derby are rentals.

Jenn

That's true. That is true.

RC

So with and not to mention the initial intro stunt of the shopping cart also. Sure, sure.

Jenn

And an international trip and multiple. Oh, they went.

RC

Oh, right.

Jenn

Yes, yes, yes. A long international trip with multiple people and blah blah blah blah blah. And all the the doctor's bills. Oh man. Well, MTV gave them a budget at this point because the show did so well. So I feel like they blew a ton of money on this.

RC

Okay.

Jenn

But I also think that they maybe they didn't.

RC

And then we also have to remember it's 2001.

Jenn

It's 2001 when they're making this. Ah, I don't know. I can see this going either way.

RC

I feel like I'm doing an unfortunate test on you of economics.

Jenn

I know. But I could see this. This is like when Blink-182 got like a million dollars or ten thousand dollars or something, some high amount of money to make a music video, and they just cashed the entire check and then just ran around town doing whatever the fuck they wanted. This was literally during this time of this jackass period too.

RC

Oh really?

Jenn

So I'm like, what was the MTV budget? Shoot from the hip.

RC

Shoot from the hip.

Jenn

Ah, I'm down with this. Um. $30,000. That's low. That's really low.

RC

All right, what do we think the box office was then?

Jenn

Box office was bananas. Bananas. All of the 14-year-old boys in the world went to see this, and then their moms had to take them to see this. So the box office was $1 million.

RC

So you will find yourself pleasantly surprised that it was a budget of $5 million.

Jenn

That was

RC

$5

Jenn

million. $5 million.

RC

And a box office of $79.5 million.

Jenn

Oh my God.

RC

The return on investment of this film is phenomenal. It's insane. It is ridiculous.

Jenn

And it's deserved.

RC

Is it?

Jenn

Yes.

RC

Is it?

Jenn

Absolutely.

RC

I do want to give you a moment, because I do see from the notes that, do you want to wax nostalgically?

Jenn

I do.

RC

All right, go take the lead.

Jenn

Just this was—I don't know.

RC

This nation needed this to heal.

Jenn

The nation need in a post-9/11 world, which Jackass was happening over 9/11 as well, but they got the movie as a post-9/11 treat. I

RC

don't—I don't know if that's how I would love to see a memo from MTV like, "Hey guys, it's been a rough year." Here's five million dollars. Here's five million dollars.

Jenn

Here's Johnny Knoxville.

RC

Beat the shit out of each other.

Jenn

That's literally it. Welcome to America.

RC

But yeah, I mean, it sounds like. I think this was pretty formative for you.

Jenn

Yeah, no.

RC

In a way that it's weird that it wasn't for me.

Jenn

It is, but I find myself as I get older realizing that I very much was a 14-year-old boy when I was a teenager. So I don't know, it just like, I feel like I remember my older cousin who showed me like all the music that I like showing me this.

RC

Now when it was, I'm imagining it wasn't when it was airing, right? Almost couldn't have been.

Jenn

No,

RC

you would have been very young. I mean, again, not impossible, but very young.

Jenn

Well, in

RC

the year 2000,

Jenn

I would have been in third grade in the year 2000. Nope, I would have been in second grade in the year 2000. Fourth

RC

grade by 2002 when the movie came out,

Jenn

which it was around fifth, sixth, seventh grade that this was entering my life.

RC

A lot of reruns.

Jenn

Reruns.

RC

Um, I'm trying to think. Uh, the second movie came out in 2006, so possibly that was Around there.

Jenn

I mean, I didn't go to the theater and see it or anything, but like that and Viva La Bam was always on late night MTV and MTV2 if you had like Comcast and like—

RC

Did you have Comcast?

Jenn

Yeah, of course we had Comcast.

RC

So did I, but I don't remember really watching MTV2.

Jenn

That's so weird.

RC

More of a Comedy Central guy.

Jenn

Hmm.

RC

That was my late night thing.

Jenn

Yeah.

RC

Also, plus by this point I'm, you know, depending on the time frame we're talking, anywhere from 10 to 16 by the time Jackass Number two came out,

Jenn

which is literally the target audience.

RC

Yeah, but I'm saying I was watching Comedy Central instead. I was seeing I was seeing late night comedians I probably shouldn't be seeing instead. I was learning how to make fun of people effectively instead of how to beat the shit out of them.

Jenn

No, no, no. I mean, I was doing both too because I was watching a lot of Chelsea lately as well. Like a lot of Chelsea.

RC

You contain multitudes.

Jenn

Oh, a hundred percent. I'm a weird figure, but I'm also. I'm a 14 to 17-year-old boy in my heart with the music that I love. And this, I was an avid watcher of all of this and my friends were and my cousin was. And I don't know, it was a big thing.

RC

What are, for you, some of the standout stunts? Because the thing that stands out, I'd say, for me in this film is how much, I don't know, I was expecting a bit more of a through line, but this was literally just a series of vignettes of them torturing each other, the public, and their families.

Jenn

Yeah, that's literally, that's the through line of the whole show.

RC

Yeah, but I figured that from a film, I guess that their scale went bigger.

Jenn

You think that they were going to make a cohesive storyboard and maybe something?

RC

I just figured someone might have some growth or something, or maybe someone was going to talk about like an interest in a stunt in the beginning and eventually they would build up to that.

Jenn

I wish that anyone listening could see the face that I'm making at you. That's not the point. That is not the point of this. The same endeavor?

RC

As I say, it was so much more than what I expected to be a scaled-up version of the TV show. And, and, and I want you to consider the idea that $79.5 million were spent. Let's say that was $5 a ticket. No, no.

Jenn

Oh, to see it. Yes. But $5 million was spent to make that.

RC

Yeah. And $5 million, I'm less concerned about how much was spent to make it and more that people spent a ginormous sum to watch essentially 3 super episodes.

Jenn

Well, number one, at this point, No one knew what it was going to be like, especially since that was before the big internet times. So there was not— there's probably like a trailer, but I wonder if people were expecting more.

RC

God, I wish we would have thought of that before starting to record, but I'm fascinated to know what the trailer was like for this.

Jenn

It was just, you know how like the end credits was just like a montage of— that's probably what it was.

RC

See, I'm imagining it more like—

Jenn

Or it was the shopping cart.

RC

Yeah. The

Jenn

well-produced scene in the movie, the beginning and the end, and then the rest are just handheld cameras and a camera crew that's— it's rough footage because of what it is. Oh,

RC

that's a good point.

Jenn

I think it was probably the shopping cart scene and the old men scene that was just like very well produced.

RC

I was almost wondering if it's like the problem of a modern trailer of everyone comes out of it going, Oh, I feel like I got all the good parts from the trailer.

Jenn

Yeah. Or, or like bits that you're just like, oh, I have to see the rest of this, or like, what?

RC

But yeah, was there any specific stunts that really, or moments or recurring things that really stood out to you?

Jenn

Hmm. You know, I love their little outfits when it's a themed skit.

RC

Like, like the wedgie, the tree wedgie?

Jenn

No, no, that's not an outfit.

RC

No, no, like

Jenn

how they

RC

did the old men makeup, or—

Jenn

no, no, that's also not what I mean.

RC

Okay,

Jenn

so particularly what I mean is like when they all dressed up in golf clothes to do the golf thing, or remember when they were doing—

RC

they were wearing camo. That was—

Jenn

no, no, when they— oh no, not the, not the horns. Oh, they were driving the golf carts. Yes, they dressed up as like

RC

in golf outfits,

Jenn

golf gear, or like The mousetrap one where they made the guy dress as a little mouse and then—

RC

Oh man, you see him roll through mousetraps.

Jenn

Yeah, dressed as a giant little mouse.

RC

Giant little mouse.

Jenn

See, that shit is, it just takes it to another level for me.

RC

Okay.

Jenn

It's very funny.

RC

The golf carts are definitely up there for me.

Jenn

Ooh, that was like rough, man.

RC

There was also like, yeah, I can't, like, there were so many instances in this film where I went, oh man, how do these people not have like tons of broken bones? Like, how are we not seeing I mean, we saw a couple where they had to go to like the hospital and stuff. But I was like, how almost, almost all of these, I went, God, how did they get out of that without a broken bone? Or how many things do you think were cut out where someone did get more seriously injured? Possibly?

Jenn

I do wonder. And I wonder, I've seen like a lot of the episodes, but I can't recall. And it has been a minute. I can't recall instances of people like getting hurt beyond what we saw, like things like that happen. There are some things where they're like getting ready to do something that's like a really bad idea and the person will be like, no. And usually it's Steve-O because he'll kind of do anything, but like—

RC

But if he won't, then—

Jenn

They're like, yeah, we shouldn't. Or like something will stop, which we did see a couple times in here as well.

RC

The golf thing that you were— I thought you were referring to previously is where they went out to an actual golf course, hid in the bushes, and on some actual golf person's swing ran an air horn to throw them off their game. And that was probably my favorite, especially once the one guy started trying to swing golf balls at them.

Jenn

That was pretty funny.

RC

And at one point just threw his club, which I was like, that's an expensive thing just to throw usually.

Jenn

Yeah.

RC

But at the same time, fuck 'em, 'cause I don't really care about people that golf.

Jenn

Rich golf people?

RC

Yeah, rich golf people, your land could be used better.

Jenn

Yeah, fuck you, here's an air horn on your backswing. That was hilarious.

RC

I really liked the guy who was like, I told you I was gonna kick your ass. And I'm thinking like, you're way older than these guys.

Jenn

You're like 67, fucking sit down.

RC

I mean, they might have been in their 50s. Listen, people weren't aging as well back then. They didn't have skincare routines. They weren't, you know, they weren't going and trading for younger blood to try and stay eternally youthful.

Jenn

The rich people weren't completely rich.

RC

But like this idea that they were gonna just like roll up— it was like 2 guys maybe trying to roll up on a group of younger men who beat the shit out of each other for fun.

Jenn

'Cause crazy always beats strong as well. And not that these men were strong, but—

RC

Oh, okay, you're saying that the crazy—

Jenn

Even if those men had been strong, these guys are fucking nuts.

RC

The jackass crew would be the victors, most definitely.

Jenn

Yeah.

RC

We kind of touched on this a little bit ago, but there was some international travel. And the— well, I didn't realize this until the credits, that apparently at some point they go to Mexico. I did not catch that at all.

Jenn

Okay, this kind of makes a little bit more sense. I think that's— where they may have been when they did the toy car situation because they go see a doctor who calls someone.

RC

Oh, yeah, and he was speaking—

Jenn

He was speaking another— I couldn't pick up on the language, but it wasn't Japanese, which they were in Japan before.

RC

Right, right.

Jenn

That would make sense. Okay. As for the other bits—

RC

Most of it was in the US.

Jenn

I thought so. Maybe some of the animal things.

RC

Well, I mean, actually, I should say—

Jenn

Honestly, maybe some of the gator shit or the animal— I don't know if gators are— Mexico.

RC

Oh, I figured that was Florida. That's just because

Jenn

I also figured— and I did see a Florida quote, but like, maybe you go places where people are gonna ask less questions.

RC

Maybe.

Jenn

I don't know.

RC

Well, the, the stuff in Japan, uh, I thought was particularly interesting. I mean, it did play on a lot of stereotypes of like, uh, of their culture.

Jenn

It didn't age awesome.

RC

No. Well, there was the one bit that I will say How do I put it? It doesn't age well, but it does signal a difference, is Party Boy.

Jenn

Yes.

RC

What's his name?

Jenn

Chris Pontius.

RC

Chris Pontius stripping down to a thong and dancing as Party Boy.

Jenn

Ripped off breakaway pants.

RC

Breakaway pants. I always love a skit that involves breakaway pants.

Jenn

It's so great.

RC

But him doing this and dancing, at one point he gets accosted— it's not the right word, he's accosting people, frankly.

Jenn

Yes.

RC

But he gets approached by a police officer who is from my mind, bafflingly calm. And, and like, he takes the guy's hat and all I'm thinking is, bro, if you were in America—

Jenn

He would have shot you.

RC

They would have— they would have just— he would have called like 4 of his buddies and they just would have beat the absolute shit out of you.

Jenn

Yeah,

RC

the idea of just grinding all up on a police officer and stealing their stuff feels like to a certain degree he was taking advantage of what my understanding is, is a more deferential culture, like a much like you're just gonna kind of keep to yourself and get away from the situation. Like, he was taking advantage of that too a little bit, but it was an insane series of events.

Jenn

It was.

RC

I forgot. It was also one of those things where it came up early in the film and then I forgot about it, and then he went up to like a fortune teller on the street and just started again. I was like, oh my

Jenn

God. Yeah, it was a rough one.

RC

But you also gotta wonder, I mean, maybe what we're seeing is the calm ones. For all we know, he did this a bunch of times and just got chased away.

Jenn

Yeah, can you imagine?

RC

Like, I'm imagining him going into like a bar with a bunch of guys who just got off work and trying that and just getting chased out.

Jenn

Well, ideally, and I would think for MTV Productions, you would have to get someone to sign a release form for this to be used as well.

RC

A lot of it was in public though. And I guess I don't know Japanese law.

Jenn

I'm not sure. And that was my other question of like, is that why you go international at some point? It's a good— that's a good point. I don't know. Because like, I'm thinking of some of the American skits, like Bam and someone else like decided to be robbers and they just crashed them through the like—

RC

Well, that was clearly in conjunction with whoever owned that building.

Jenn

Yeah, because they crashed— they like movie crashed them through the ceiling of an office building.

RC

Yeah,

Jenn

but they scared the hell out of the guys in there, and like one of them just got up and just ran away out of the building.

RC

Not even just out of the room, out of the building.

Jenn

Down the street.

RC

Yeah, like he dodged a car and just kept going.

Jenn

They caught up afterward with him and they were like, Like, did we get you? And he was like, I just saw guys in masks and I just was— I was out of there.

RC

Listen, that is not a bad— like,

Jenn

no, it was a good— it was a good plan.

RC

I was like, they're disoriented, I'm out of here. Good idea.

Jenn

But he talked on camera and I— I—

RC

that would have definitely required a release. But again, right, maybe they already had coordinated with the people that owned the building, were like, gave them permission to film.

Jenn

But people, especially if they're surprising, which I do think—

RC

I mean, I imagine they were at work, which means your boss can just, you know, Sign away your rights.

Jenn

You can't. So I work in that and you can't because if you're signing something for like your work in your handbook or whatever that you can appear in like company-mandated media, this would have fallen outside of it. Like if someone came to my work and did this, I unfortunately would have to make them sign release forms via Johnny Knoxville to make this happen, which I would.

RC

Um, the other thing I really want to touch on is, again, especially given that I didn't grow up with it, it seems like such an odd, interesting time capsule of male culture in the early 2000s.

Jenn

You know, I can't really speak to this one, but yes.

RC

Well, there's just like a couple of things that stood out to me is like a— maybe not gratuitous, maybe I'm being a little too facetious, but to me, a gratuitous amount of a surprising amount of male nudity.

Jenn

It kind of— so—

RC

There was so much more dick and ass than I expected.

Jenn

No, I know, but that was the thing at that point.

RC

I mean, it was like, well, like, yeah, it's shocking, it's provocative, it's frankly— it seemed insane. These guys kept— these guys damaged their penises so many times.

Jenn

Yeah.

RC

Like, I am curious who does and does not have kids at this point based on what I watched happen.

Jenn

Yeah.

RC

Also, I can't believe they shoved a toy car up a guy's ass.

Jenn

Oh yeah, they did hilarious

RC

x-ray. I hope they still have it.

Jenn

RIP Ryan Dunn.

RC

Oh yeah, that was him. Well, I hope someone still has the x-ray.

Jenn

I'm sure it's somewhere. Yeah, they did that.

RC

But it was just like,

Jenn

I feel like that's how it was and how it is. I don't know. Like I said, I can't really. Well, no, because like I

RC

mean,

Jenn

I hung out with a lot of boys in middle school.

RC

I hung out with a lot of boys in all my life, and nobody was like this.

Jenn

But you weren't watching this show.

RC

No, and I guess maybe they weren't either. But like, no one in my school was like this. There was no one I heard, he's like, oh, so-and-so jumped off the roof. I'm not— I didn't have anybody.

Jenn

Wait, you really didn't? I like went to school with a kid who blew up someone else's fucking garage.

RC

What?

Jenn

Yeah, he blew up someone's garage. He was like bored and fucking around downtown when we were in like late middle school, early high school, and he like lit a fire.

RC

I'm sorry, did you go to school with Ted Kaczynski? What are you talking about?

Jenn

No, no, like, and there were others. There were other things. I don't know, like, people did shit like this. My brother had a friend who, like, lit someone's porch on fire. Like,

RC

on purpose? Yes.

Jenn

What? And we weren't even—

RC

Is New Hampshire full of arsonists?

Jenn

Number one, New Hampshire is full of real weird people. We weren't even, like, a bad town, but, like, yeah, people were doing this.

RC

So, Jenn, there's this story that a teacher tells on TikTok where he's talking to the kids and the kids are like, you shouldn't be here, you should be at some underprivileged school helping them. And the guy explains to him basically, oh, I was actually sent here to help with underprivileged kids. But he doesn't say it directly and the kids figure it out. And this is what I'm basically saying is, I actually think you were in a bad town.

Jenn

No, but I wasn't because there was— You

RC

guys were setting people's porches on fire. They blew up someone's garage. Listen to yourself.

Jenn

There was the bad town next to us.

RC

You being better does not make you good.

Jenn

It's not like it was a lot, but it was some. This was a thing. Yeah.

RC

Jesus Christ.

Jenn

So like, I don't know. It was a thing. And like, we would set up things in the backyard and like, people would like bike off ramps and hurt themselves.

RC

And that's all right. That I was familiar with.

Jenn

Normal kid shit.

RC

Yeah. Yeah.

Jenn

And it wasn't my friends blowing up garages. It was It was a kid we knew.

RC

Jenn, I didn't say that you were the bad kids. I'm saying your town was bad.

Jenn

I don't think they were really bad, but— and some other stuff happened, but those are the highlights.

RC

I guess maybe it's best that I didn't watch this show.

Jenn

Maybe. It gives boys ideas. My cousin lit up buckets in the backyard on fire. They would look out the window, my aunt and uncle, and be like, ah! He was just bored. Kids do this.

RC

That sounds like an indictment of children more than like a normal thing.

Jenn

To me, the quest for what is going to happen with this intrusive thought is a more normal thing for kids in my head.

RC

It's the on-purpose part that gets me.

Jenn

The kid that lit the porch on fire, that was on purpose. He didn't like those people.

RC

Oh, that's— That's not a prank, that's a crime.

Jenn

Yeah, he was like a 6th grader. He was super young.

RC

I'm also just wondering if this is almost like a, like a Florida Man situation.

Jenn

New Hampshire.

RC

Like, if more states had laws about like police reports, if we would know more about the crazy stuff that was happening in New Hampshire in the early 2000s.

Jenn

Probably.

RC

I don't have an easy transition for this, but I was gonna say let's talk about the celebrity guests that were in the Yeah,

Jenn

like, um, Eric Koston, who— now I know who Eric Koston is because we've seen Y2K, and they make fun of the main character for buying Koston shoes, and he's not a skater. So

RC

is that an actual brand of shoe then?

Jenn

Yep, yep, it was a real thing. He was like Etnies or like Osiris's or the skate shoe, you know?

RC

Okay,

Jenn

but Eric Koston had his own skate shoes, and Eric Koston came up in the thing, and I was like, oh my god.

RC

But yeah, there was quite a few celebrity cameos in the film. We talked about it on our way home. Tony Hawk.

Jenn

Yep, Tony Hawk. Henry Rollins!

RC

Henry Rollins, which I was like— he was someone who I was like, oh, I know him, but I don't know what from.

Jenn

Uh, Black Flag?

RC

Yeah, so that's why I was like—

Jenn

And Motivational Speaking?

RC

Yeah, I was gonna say, I'm trying to figure out, because I don't think I've seen him— I didn't— I like— I didn't know he was in Black Flag. That was definitely not where my brain went. My brain was like, have I seen you in a movie? That's what I was thinking.

Jenn

Probably. Just a gorgeous, beautiful man that's very smart.

RC

We also got Matt Hoffman, who appeared in multiple scenes that I did not expect.

Jenn

The name sounds familiar. Is he just a—

RC

BMX biker.

Jenn

Okay.

RC

He had his own BMX video game.

Jenn

Yeah, I heard you next to me at one point go, Matt Hoffman!

RC

Listen, outside—

Jenn

It was awesome!

RC

Outside of the video games, I didn't know him. Like, I only— I would not have known him if he did not have his own game. It's kind of like, for me, Kelly Slater. Yeah, he had a pro surfer game, so I know who he is, but I didn't follow surfing. I didn't follow BMX.

Jenn

Yeah,

RC

I barely followed skateboarding. Oh, Rip Taylor.

Jenn

I don't know who that is.

RC

He was the, he was the gentleman at the very end who pulled out like—

Jenn

Oh, the old guy?

RC

Yeah, yeah, he's a professional. He's a comedian.

Jenn

Oh, okay.

RC

He passed away a little while ago. Yeah, 2019 now. Yeah, he was, he was a professional comedian and like actor for Was he an actor? Yeah, yeah, an actor and comedian for like decades.

Jenn

Oh, okay. It's a pretty shitty role to take then, of what they just like made him sit in the boat and throw around confetti.

RC

Yeah, I mean, he's just kind of a goofy kind of guy.

Jenn

So that's like this kind of stuff he usually does? Were you surprised to see him in that facet?

RC

Yeah, yeah, I was definitely like— I would say I— most of what I remember seeing him in growing up would have been like more like award shows almost.

Jenn

Oh, okay.

RC

Well, we had the Mangera family.

Jenn

Phil and April.

RC

That was another through— another like skit that came back was him— he was convinced that he wanted to get his— Bam Mangera wanted to get his mom to say fuck on camera.

Jenn

Yeah.

RC

I almost— part of me wonders, just knowing what I know about the production of things like this, do you think they got her— they got her with the alligator and she said fuck, and then he's like, oh, I'm gonna just film a scene where I wanted to get her to say fuck?

Jenn

I don't know, because—

RC

How true to life do we think a lot of this is sometimes?

Jenn

In the show, It is kind of the thought of like they don't know what's going to happen in the moment. But I mean, I feel like just the whole nature of the fact that he like lived with them and the friends were always in and out and they were always playing pranks on them and whatever, like they always kind of assumed things and they just kind of be like, ah, bam! Even though he like, you know, do damaging things to their house or like one of his big things that they showed in this movie was like the prank is just like beating on Phil. Yeah, it's just he just like goes and like

RC

that's his dad, right?

Jenn

Yeah, yeah, that's his dad. Yeah, he just like goes and slaps around Phil and like that's the prank. That's like a thing that happens a lot.

RC

I believe it, I believe it. Um, I wonder how much money they were making that his dad was just like, yeah, whatever.

Jenn

I have no idea. Yeah, they very— and they endured through a whole like series of show and then Bam also had his own like spin-off series of like him getting married and it was like Oh, I didn't know that. Half— yeah, he's not with that woman anymore.

RC

Ooh.

Jenn

Yeah, you know, Bam's not doing too well these days.

RC

The, the one other celebrity who I did not know prior to this, um, that I wanted to make mention of is, uh, Butterbean.

Jenn

Oh yeah, I didn't know who that was, but he's a real guy.

RC

His real name is Eric David Scott Esch, better known by his nickname Butterbean. He is a professional boxer. He beat the absolute hell out of Noxell. And also, they played a bunch of clips of him boxing. And I went, whoa, this guy has some power behind him.

Jenn

Yeah, they said he had an 18-second knockout.

RC

Yeah, that was like his record.

Jenn

Yeah.

RC

I had to wonder, he had to have been going easy on Johnny because— He was.

Jenn

Well, if you watch the other ones, he had like a one-two punch kind of situation where he'd get them and then he'd get them in the head and that's what like knocked them out.

RC

Yeah, he just—

Jenn

he was

RC

clearly a lot of power behind that punch. I'm wondering what he's up to these days.

Jenn

No idea. He wasn't like young in that, but—

RC

He's 58 now, so he would have been— He was around 38, so.

Jenn

Wow. Well, you know about that skincare now. But being a boxer is a rough career. You usually don't go that long into it because you're fucked up.

RC

Yeah, I'll be interested to see if he— when the last time he boxed was. I mean, he might still be doing it. Some people go a really long time.

Jenn

That's true. But usually you're kind of screwed at that point. But that was like, that was one of the rougher ones because You could tell they were kind of setting up for a couple rounds, and he kind of like hurt him enough in the first round. He had to go to the hospital. I'm sure they—

RC

I'm sure they had the idea that maybe this would go a couple rounds, but maybe realistically—

Jenn

And they did it in a store in front of everyone.

RC

Yeah, doing an apartment store was an amazing—

Jenn

He was lucky he didn't fall through a glass case. I was like, oh, why this area?

RC

Sometimes some of the places they would go and the fact that it was like getting these public reactions made me think of like Eric Andre. If you've ever seen any of his comedy.

Jenn

Not really. I've seen the like, let me in skit.

RC

Yeah, but he does that kind of stuff in public, and you kind of get these weird reactions from people. And I just was like, it almost felt like it would have been in the same vein. Like, I'd love to see these guys collaborate on something.

Jenn

Well, I think everyone watched these guys.

RC

And kind of picked something up from them a little bit.

Jenn

Definitely. They were kind of heroes.

RC

Even if it wasn't in the exact same vein, there was like things you could pick up on.

Jenn

Then there was that like, you can do anything in public situation, which existed before this, but I feel like this Pushed back. Was really a like, what, don't ask for permission, ask for forgiveness?

RC

Ask forgiveness, not permission.

Jenn

Yeah. Do you feel better for what you saw tonight?

RC

Better? I don't—

Jenn

Do you feel healed? Do you feel like you saw some American heroes? Do you feel the Holy Spirit running through you?

RC

I would— I probably wouldn't use any of those words. I don't know what words I would use. I don't know what I felt. I, I would not describe it that way.

Jenn

No?

RC

I sure feel like I watched a lot of young men hurt each other pretty badly on the genitals.

Jenn

Yes.

RC

A relentless focus on hurting each other and themselves, frankly.

Jenn

Yeah.

RC

And I don't know what that means about us as a country.

Jenn

I don't know, but it feels very American.

RC

But it feels very American. We salute you. Oh my God, we totally skipped over, we went to the Coolidge Corner Clubhouse after.

Jenn

Yeah, we reversed our—

RC

Yeah, normally we try to go to things beforehand, but we went after and got ourselves another potentially American vein, we got ourselves a hot— some hot dogs, some fries, and some fried mozzarella, and came out feeling like a million bucks.

Jenn

Oh yeah, they were called Fenway dogs, actually.

RC

Worthwhile, important distinction. Um, I mean, we've been to the Coach Corner Clubhouse before, but—

Jenn

Very good.

RC

I was saying, I was also happy to find out that they serve food till almost midnight.

Jenn

Yeah, and they grill their hot dog buns like real New Englanders do. That's the way to do it.

RC

As we all should.

Jenn

As we all should.

RC

And on that note, I'm RC Beiler.

Jenn

And I'm Jenn Evans. Welcome to Jackass.

RC

Keep it cool, everybody.

Jackass: a time capsule of pain

RC and Jenn take a nostalgic look back at guys getting hit in the nuts. Plus a quick pitstop at the Coolidge Corner Clubhouse.

RC Beiler - @rcbeiler Jenn Evans - @halfsevenprojects

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